Why post loads with no RATE???

All the above but everything in the dark will come to the light..10 4. For the heart of a man is deceitful and wicked who can know it.

Its simple, most loads with no rate are open to negotiation. Msg them with your bid and see what could happen. In my sector (tanker) I rarely get affered loads with rates attatched. The tell me what they need done, I tell them what I will charge. In most cases when they leave rate open they are in dire need of coverage and you can name your price. Just my 2 cents.

Anytime your negotiating the party who shows price first loses. Most customer do not spend time looking at rates on here. The real reason is so your competition cant undercut you easily. Rates are closely guarded secret for this reason.

I wish the carriers would post their rates. They are the ones actually selling something. Don't get me wrong, I'm not giving out my rates to anyone but my customers, but I'd like to know everyone elses rates. Get it? You are selling a service!! Wouldn't it be nice to buy a product or service from someone who has no idea what their selling price is? And YOU can name your price! You just have to listen to them cry a bit.

Morning All, Yes it is some of all what you are saying, When i post a load i put the rate product and all info i can supply. The postings have really become a sad affair over the years. You will see 3 diffrent people post the same load and there are so many loads that are old and they dont clean up the board and remove them. I think there should be a section on here with loads that pay a fair and liveable rate of at least $3.00@mile that is a seperate list then the other freight. Just and idea but i like it and who dosent want to be on a list that they can be proud of and try and help everyone make a fair living. May God Bless and everyone be safe!!

Ya Its a pain to try and get a rate , by law from what I read you can make them give you what they are making on the load

Things that also are very irratating is paying for wash outs ,It is not my product if you need a washed truck then include that ,it is not always easy to find a wash its time consuming besides the cost and sitting waiting most of the time for freee its Bs

Also these brokers need to be more available on week ends and fridays so one can plan loads and plan the week try to keep dead heading to minimium

Another thing is the paper work and the amount of time to get paid is just f--------g ridiclous ,these companies we haul to need to give us the white copies for one thing as sending it by phone or how ever I hear alot I cant read it , I have of late been asking them to make me white copy so I can foward to some in an office other than just emailing it back to the broker which would make much easier ,this Bs not getting paid for 30 days after they recieve paper work is also Bs being as they want an invoice plus the paper work a lot of us are old drivers and not IT TECHS ,I dont believe there is another business or job that pays once a month ,fortunally I make enough in the summer and have a cash flow ,i can see how some starting out can struggle just to buy fuel ,and then you are going to tell me about factoring and quick pay at 2-3% or what ever they want to f------ you out of , I just do this in the winter to keep my cash balanced ,I pull a belly 8 moths out of the year I damn near make in one month what it takes all d*** winter doing OTR hopper I feel for you guys doing this year around .I make 140-55hr and get paid all day once we start no waiting to get unloaded or loaded for free and most pay once a week or some every 2 week which is kinda nice in away its kinda cool to get a check 15-20k depending on hrs which can be 40-60 hrs a week ,very frustrating to go out on the road in the winter and put up with thhe BS, like not sure how this got started but having to have seals to put on the trailers How d*** stupid is that ,some one going to steel a bushul of corn some how lol

That's kinda how it works. Increase the supply without demand and down go the rates.