Man Up!

Jared Flinn [00:00:18]: You're listening to the Bolt Floats podcast, your number one resource for everything, bolt freight trucking. Hey, guys, Jared Flynn with the Bulk loads podcast. Got Tyler with me. Tyler Allison [00:00:33]: What's going on? Jared Flinn [00:00:34]: Oh, man, I just got back from a trip. Tyler Allison [00:00:37]: Yeah. How was it? Jared Flinn [00:00:37]: It was really good. And you know, I like to show and tell or share and tell. So I'll throw this picture up, but went on a hiking trip with some guys. This is our four, no, I think our fifth trip and a couple of these guys I know from here in town. One actually is our attorney at Brockloads. He's helped us several times. I want to mention that because it's going to funnel into this conversation even more. But yeah, this was out in ouray, Colorado, and he had just had a great time. Jared Flinn [00:01:05]: Love the mountains. And it's just, it's a good time to get away and just see God's creation. Tyler Allison [00:01:12]: Yeah. Jared Flinn [00:01:12]: And it's really cool. But I want to talk more about that. Let's also talk about, yeah, today's truck. Truck for today, which is really, really fitting, man. This is all going to just transition perfectly. Tyler Allison [00:01:22]: Yeah. This is a really cool picture today. We have Jake Sanders with Sanders trucking out of Michigan. And Jake has been a member since 2022. But yeah, this picture, I mean, with the cross in the background, it just fits our whole, our whole vibe. And what we're talking about today, it's really slick. Truck. Jared Flinn [00:01:37]: Is that up in Michigan where that crosses? Tyler Allison [00:01:39]: I don't know. I don't know. I may have to reach out to Jake and find out exactly where that is. Tim McConville [00:01:43]: Yeah. Jared Flinn [00:01:44]: Actually, if you're watching this right now and if you know exactly where that. Tyler Allison [00:01:46]: Is, comment below and let us know where it's at. Jared Flinn [00:01:48]: Hit down in the comments. But yeah, what a cool image. Just with the cross in the background. Tyler Allison [00:01:53]: Yeah. So we also want to thank you, Jake, for being a member and also sending this in. Of course, as always, if you want to get your truck featured on the podcast on our social media, definitely just send it to bulk or podcastle, oaklads.com. or you can send it to our social media channels as well. Jared Flinn [00:02:11]: Awesome. Well, you probably saw the title today and wondering what the heck are they talking about? Man up. It's actually man up and go. It's an organization that I got involved with over five years ago, and Tim McConnell is going to come on. He leads the organization now. But it's really cool. I talked about the beginning, that mountainous picture, because I went, actually, I climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. It was in 2021, it was through this organization. Jared Flinn [00:02:37]: Got to go to Africa and spend time in Uganda and Tanzania. And yeah, it was just a crazy, crazy time in my life, but I want to bring that up because it was a season of my life where I was really, really probably panicked. I was anxious, I was really stressed out and actually almost depressed because, you remember, it was during the lawsuit time, and you can kind talk to me later about that. But it was just, it was something where I never thought I'd ever be sued in my life. And it was just a terrifying moment. And at the same time, I found man up and go and really kind of push my resources or my focus on others instead of myself and just change. And we're going to talk about that more on the podcast, but I want to bring that up. This organization has just been near and dear, really started off small, and, man, they are doing great things. Jared Flinn [00:03:27]: They have, the main corporate is in Florida, Tampa, Florida, but there's actually a cohort here in Springfield that Tim leads. So we're going to talk a little bit more about what man up is. And I think you're, we're going to talk this on the, on the outro, but how this all intersects with what we do in life and even on bulk loads. Tyler Allison [00:03:46]: Yeah. Awesome. Jared Flinn [00:03:47]: So cool. Well, without further ado, here is my conversation with Tim McConville of man up and go. Tim, thanks for coming in the studio. Tim McConville [00:03:57]: Hey, happy to be here. Jared Flinn [00:03:58]: This is not a probably business one, but it's super important. And I wanted to bring you on to really speak to men and women, but especially the fathers, husbands that are in our industry. Hopefully, I can hold this one together myself because it's near and dear. And I think I need to be hearing this probably just as much as everybody else. So I think this may be even more therapy for me. Tim McConville [00:04:26]: Well, if it makes you feel better, I need to hear the things that I say all the time. Like, I, I need to hear it just as much. So it's, I'm speaking to myself when I'm speaking to groups or people about what we do, because it's every day you're having to challenge yourself. Jared Flinn [00:04:44]: Yeah. Tim McConville [00:04:44]: And help yourself grow. Jared Flinn [00:04:46]: And so what is man up for? Audience? Tim McConville [00:04:51]: Well, I mean, to keep it very simple, the mission of what man up is, is mobilizing men to fight for the fatherless, as Jesus commands. That's the bottom line, is men stepping up in the area of fatherlessness. So that's one. Being a good father yourself and growing in who you are as a father. But then we have capacity beyond that to serve and to love and care and to help the fatherless that are around us and even to challenge other men that are fathers that maybe aren't involved in their kids lives, to challenge them to step up. So, really, the father, it's a very broad thing, but it's very intentional of dealing with fatherlessness and breaking that cycle of generational fatherlessness that a lot of people deal with, myself included. Jared Flinn [00:05:40]: Well, yeah. And talk about your story. You grew up in a fatherless home, right? Tim McConville [00:05:44]: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let's. Let's dive into that. I mean, that's, you know, part of why I'm where I'm at today, doing what I'm doing. It started six years ago when man up started here locally. Jared Flinn [00:05:56]: Yep. Tim McConville [00:05:57]: We served together, served alongside each other as the local board of our chapter here. And I jumped in, and the reason I was drawn to it was because I grew up without a dad, and I had a great mom. She was a phenomenal mom. She was a superhero. A lot of people look up to her and the strength and the fortitude that she had raising three kids by herself, but she didn't know how to be a dad. That wasn't her role. And so there was a lot of men that stepped up in different times in life, whether that be coaches or teacher or a friend's dad or. But it was men at church that we grew up in that just stepped up and kind of played a little bit of that role in my life. Tim McConville [00:06:46]: And it was because of that that I looked at man up and went, man, it's my time to get back. And I have been. I've been a youth pastor. I've been in different roles where I was doing that, but this was the first time I was doing it specifically going, man, I can take my experience, and I can use that to now give back and do something for other kids that were in my shoes to help other dads see the importance of their role in their kids lives. So growing up without a dad was, I'd say it was a little different for me because I had a great mom, had a great home life. It was just a little more challenging because she was doing it by herself. You know, finances were a little bit tighter, you know, lived the hand me down life, you know, got for my big brother, and, you know, just some of those things. But in reality, I look back and my life wasn't so bad because the right people were around me. Tim McConville [00:07:44]: There was a great support system around our family, and so that's one of the things that we look at today is providing a support system where there's single moms raising kids by themselves, foster moms raising kids by themselves is just providing a support system. The ability to know that they're not alone, that there's somebody they can count on, is huge for them. Jared Flinn [00:08:09]: You mentioned six years ago. I can't believe it's been that long ago. Six years. Three. Yeah, three or four years ago. But, yeah, I'll share a little bit about. So a mutual friend of ours, Dustin Tompkins, we were out on a. Actually, we were on the lake one day with our families, and he said, hey, I think there's this organization that you might be interested in. Jared Flinn [00:08:30]: It's called man up and go. And I said, what does it do? And he goes, well, it's a group that we fight for, the fatherless. And it was crazy. He started explaining it, and I don't know what came over the Holy Spirit or whatever sacred echo, but I went home and I just started kind of praying and meditating on it. And I told my wife, I was like, I think, like, I want to be involved in this organization. And just the way that he explained it, it's men helping single moms foster families locally and internationally. We're going to talk about that. And it was, and I'll say this, at that point in my life, I just knew that something was missing for me. Jared Flinn [00:09:08]: I mean, great family, awesome wife, great kids. But there was just something itching, I guess, in my soul to say, is there something more? There's got to be more that I can do than just well. Tim McConville [00:09:19]: And for me, I was in a season of transition where what I had been doing, I wasn't doing anymore. And so I was kind of in the searching place of God. What am I supposed to do right now? And I didn't know what that meant, either a job or what that was. And so for me, I went to a fundraising dinner with a guy named Jim Barber, and he was on the board at the time. And so he said, hey, I'd love you to come here about man up and go. And they were just doing international work at the time. And I remember sitting there going, man, this is powerful, you know, this idea of fatherlessness. And the thing I said to him was, why aren't we doing anything here? And he goes, we've been asking the same question. Tim McConville [00:10:02]: And it was literally within a year that we started the local cohorts in Tampa, Florida, and Springfield, Missouri. Two very random. Doesn't make any sense when people say, we're based. You know, I say, hey, we're based out of Florida, and I'm in Springfield, Missouri. It just. It was the relationships, it was the people just where they were. But it's really been incredible to see that growth that's come from when it started internationally and now we're doing a lot of local work. Yeah, yeah. Jared Flinn [00:10:31]: Well, it was interesting. Yeah, we got it started. And from my story, go to the first meeting, and I can't remember the gentleman's name. That was kind of leading the chairman at that time, but it was like, within a month, he resigns, and for whatever reason. Yeah, somebody, I think it was Dustin, was like, man, would you step up and be this? And I told myself, I can't say no. I have to do this. And so I was, well, the minute. Tim McConville [00:10:59]: You did that, so that was like a domino effect of, you had to step into that. Then Dustin stepped in this role. Then I was like, all right, who do we get to step in here? We didn't even know each other. I don't even remember who called me. But somebody's like, hey, we heard this might be a good thing for you. And I was like, absolutely. And what's crazy is, at that time, I remember thinking to myself, man, this is a great organization. I think I could work for someday. Jared Flinn [00:11:24]: Oh, wow. Tim McConville [00:11:24]: I thought that even back when it first started, I'm like, this is something I could do. And here I am six years later, and this is what I do full time, is. Is working with man up. Jared Flinn [00:11:34]: We're going to talk about that, too, because I think that's a pretty cool story. But I'm going to have Joe throw up some of these pictures that my involvement years ago, but it was eye opening. So, again, if you're trying to wonder, like, what does this look like? But we got together. There's a group of us, I think, 30 men, and we started, I think, a lot of these people, there's. And this is another thing, too. In. In the Springfield area here, I think it was like 600 foster kids, 600 plus foster kids, but reached out to local. It's not an orphanage, but different facilities and different foster parent groups, but start helping and did service projects. Jared Flinn [00:12:11]: So it was cool at that time. We were doing yard work, cleanup, delivering meals. And, man, it was just so cool at that time. And just eye opening to see how many children are in the foster care, but just in fatherless situations. And what actually, you probably know being in this whole time, what is the statistics? Tim McConville [00:12:31]: So the numbers are worldwide, 700 million children worldwide live in a home without a father figure. So that's no stepdad, no biological dad, foster dad. That is no father figure. Then in America, it is one in four kids, or 25%. I think the number is about 17 or 18 million kids in America that live in a home without a father figure. Jared Flinn [00:12:54]: So the goal was to just really provide support for these kids and families. And that's what we did over the, I guess, really, the next two or three years, still, everybody volunteer, trying to piece us together. And it was a bunch of volunteers. Tim McConville [00:13:09]: We were just, like, just doing what we could. And I remember you said this. I said this were like, man, I just wish I could do more. I know there's more I could do because you just, you felt like, man, there's more work to be done, but I only have so much time to give to it. So I remember that. Jared Flinn [00:13:27]: Yeah, well, talk about, there came. There was a point in your life not too long ago that you were asked, hey, and I want you to talk about this, because business owner yourself, small business owner, working, providing for your family. But there was this tug for you to really step into this job full time. Tim McConville [00:13:50]: So I've been in pastoral ministry for 15 years and transitioned out of that about seven. Oh, about seven years ago, and was just kind of in this again. It goes back to how I got plugged in with man up, as I was just in this season of, you know, God, what do you have for me? What is. What's the next step for me and for a job? You know, at that point, I was kind of looking. It was kind of a new career thing for me. And I remember my wife saying, why don't you just start your own business, start painting. You know, I'm a good painter, and there's a lot of, you know, I'm a handy guy, so I could do a lot of things, and, oh, I don't know why anybody would hire me, but, okay. And so we put a Facebook post up and said, you know, hey, if you're needing some painting done, Tim can do this on the side for you and give you a good price. Tim McConville [00:14:39]: And so I did. And literally, I stepped out on my own, started my business, and I had two weeks worth of work lined up, and I thought, all right, here we go. And when I finally hung it up and transitioned to this new role I'm in, I had over six months worth of work that I had to find other people to step in and take those jobs over because I wanted to take care of my clients. God, just blessed that. But I always knew it was a transition for me. It wasn't what I was going to do forever. And I had been praying about what the next thing would be. And my wife said, I don't want to move. Tim McConville [00:15:17]: I don't want my kids having to leave their schools. And so she kind of laid these things out, and this opportunity comes up where we get to stay here, get to work out of my home office. And so they came to me and said, we want to see what we're doing in Florida. We want to see that happen here in Missouri, which Florida at that time. Jared Flinn [00:15:37]: Had grown full time staff. Tim McConville [00:15:39]: Yeah. I mean, today, man up has a staff of, I believe, over 25 now. Jared Flinn [00:15:45]: Full time people. Tim McConville [00:15:46]: Like, it's like, has grown even three more full time people just in the last two weeks. And so it just continues to grow. And so we wanna see some of the programming and some of the work that they're doing in Florida, done here in Missouri. Cause in Florida, they're working with young men aging out of foster care. They've got youth programming they do for kids that are in foster care. They're working with keeping dads and kids together. The preservation side of keeping kids from going into care, stepping in and figuring out ways to help encourage dad, and working with dad so the kids aren't removed from the home. And then also working with dads whose kids have been put into foster care, helping them work their case plan as an individual, get to a place where they can be a better dad, where they can grow as a person, so then they can be the dad they're supposed to be. Tim McConville [00:16:40]: And so we're working with those dads as well, as well as all the international work. So there's so much that we're doing. They said, man, what can we do to see that happen in Missouri? And so they knew it needed to be a full time person that was just starting to develop that. So that's where they came to me and said, hey, we think you'd be the right person for this. And it is. I love what I do. My title is regional development coordinator, but I'm very much involved in programming that we're doing here. New initiative we're doing with dads right now. Tim McConville [00:17:10]: Now working with teenage boys, doing mentoring, and then working with our families, and just looking at ways that we can partner with organizations in the community, different agencies, children's division, just really opening the door of partnership and how we can work to better the lives of these kids. But specifically for us to see men step up and that's our heart is seeing men step up in their role as dad. And so a little bit of that for me is recruiting, recruiting guys to get involved. I'm fundraising, but I'm really just getting the name of man up out there. I'm letting know what does it mean? What does man up mean? What, what does that mean for you as an individual? What's it mean for a community? What does it mean for a church, a group of guys at church, what does that mean for you? And trying to encourage men in that. Jared Flinn [00:18:02]: Hey guys. Jared Flynn, thank you so much for listening to the Bull Clothes podcast. Many of you all may not know, but we started a permitting business and insurance business. We know that many of you are in different stages of your life and we want to simplify and take those friction points away from you. 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You know, as you're talking, I'm thinking the people listening to this right now, and probably men and maybe women that have probably been in some situations, trauma situations, maybe they were, maybe people listening in foster care not had, didn't have a dad, didn't have that model to learn from. And I'm sure this is speaking to them. Jared Flinn [00:19:33]: I want to move and really talk about really the heart of this conversation. But for people listening to this, you know, being intentional as a parent, but especially as a father because it was eye opening to me and I, and I guess I'll just be really candid. Even in my season life, you know, as a business owner and a lot of business owners listen to this, you can get so wrapped in to work, especially right now with the economy where it is. Trucking's in a recession. Like we're trying to do everything we can to provide for our families, make sure that we keep everything moving the right direction. I know men listen to this because we get prayer requests all the time that are struggling financially to provide for their families. You got all that going on, all that stress, and maybe forget about just the intentionality with my, with my kids. And I know here there's been times where I get home, it's the last thing I want to do. Jared Flinn [00:20:21]: I'm still thinking about work, thinking about the next thing I got to do the next day and not being present, you know, with my wife and with my kids. But I guess just want to hear from your heart, like, how can we be better fathers, husbands, figures in our home life. Tim McConville [00:20:39]: Yeah. You know, it's funny. We just had this conversation with my wife the other day on, just as a husband, what that intentionality looks like. And it is real easy to be intentional with our work, to be intentional with what we do from eight to 05:00 you know, we've got our to do list. We've got our tasks, we got all the things. And sometimes when we get home, we want to forget about the to do list. We want to forget about and we just want to coast. We just want to kind of just be, and I don't know about you, but, you know, there's times I get home at the end of the day that I'm just like, I just need to breathe for a minute and it's real easy to want to shut everything out. Jared Flinn [00:21:23]: Well, sometimes there's this little voice, I'm going to be honest, like that's telling me, like, hey, you've done enough today. You've worked, you provided for your family like, you've done enough. And like, that's the wrong voice. I'm here. Tim McConville [00:21:32]: One of the, one of the things that I, earlier on when my kids were younger that, and I forget where I heard it, but somebody said, you know, even when you get home and you're tired, you've got to rise above that and you've got to give your kids that time when you get home. Like those moments when they're like, daddy, daddy, daddy, can we go play? Can we go play? And you're so tired. They don't care how tired you are. They just, they see, does my dad play with me or not? And if they see that I'm more tired than I am, I want to spend time with them, they're going to remember that. And so early on, I had to say to myself, it doesn't matter how hard of a day I've had, doesn't matter how tired I am when I get home, I'm going to take that 30 minutes or an hour, and I'm going to get down on the floor. I'm going to play with the kids. I'm going to go out, I'm going to throw a ball. We're going to go out and walk or whatever it is, but you have to be intentional with that. Tim McConville [00:22:30]: In ourselves, we're selfish beings that just, if I'm tired, I'm tired and I'm going to do my thing. And so many dads, so many men, when they get home, they sit in their recliner, they grab a few cans of beer, and they just veg for the rest of the night. And that's what kids think of their dad. And I've heard so many stories of guys that say, yeah, my dad was around, but, yeah, my dad was there, but he wasn't there. And, man, I didn't, I didn't want to be that dad. And so today that intentionality is. It's different. You know, our kids have cell phones now. Tim McConville [00:23:13]: That communication is different. And so the intentionality for me today, because we're kind of, we can go all different directions. My daughter's driving now. She's working. Jared Flinn [00:23:22]: I saw that. Working. Tim McConville [00:23:23]: Yeah. So, you know, when that starts to happen, that changes the dynamic of the relationship, and you have to be even more intentional. I joke with my daughter. I went on a trip one time where I was gone for a few days and I came home and she didn't even know I was gone. She didn't realize I was gone. I'm like, how did you not know I was gone? And she's, I just said, because that's the, you know, when your kids get older, they can be busy doing stuff, and sometimes your paths don't always cross as much. And so that hit me. I'm like, man, I've got to be more intentional when I'm gone to shoot a text to her and just let her know I'm thinking about her, and she'd be like, okay, I'll see you tonight. Tim McConville [00:24:01]: I'm like, no, I've gone. And so that really hit me when she said that. And we joke about it now, because my son, if I'm gone, he calls me every day. He goes out of his way to call me because that's, you know, just the relationship we have. So intentionality is huge. Jared Flinn [00:24:20]: Well, you mentioned this just a little bit ago because I want to kind of tail off when you were gone. Well, you know, our audience, we have men that are gone a lot, and it's part of the job, being in the truck. Sometimes they're. They leave Sunday night. They're not back till Friday. Sometimes they're back in that. But talk about how. How men can be intentional when they're not home, when they're on the road, and how, what are practical ways that we can still be intentional in the lives of our, you know, in our families. Tim McConville [00:24:53]: Yeah, you know, I think it's different for different people. For me, my being gone is sporadic. It's not like, hey, we know I'm leaving this day, and I'm going to get this back this day, and that happens on a regular basis. For me, it's a little bit more sporadic. So I think for somebody like me, it's just, hey, before I leave, so, like, you know, tonight, there's something I was invited to go to, and I'm back and forth. Do I go to it? And it's like, I can't go to it. I'm leaving tomorrow for a week, and as much as I'd love to go to this event tonight, it's not that important. I need to be home. Tim McConville [00:25:28]: And so it's being more intentional for your family leading up to being gone, but then when you're gone, it's making a habit of if it's calling every night, if it's, you know, maybe sending a picture of where you're at, or, you know, I did this, you know, I was at somebody's house last week while I was gone on a trip, and they had a doctor coconut doctor pepper, and it made me think of my daughter because that's become one of her favorite drinks. And so I took a picture with the can and just let her know I was thinking about her. Yeah, it really is not that big of a thing. But what I've learned is the little things are bigger than we think. Jared Flinn [00:26:05]: Oh, that's good. Tim McConville [00:26:07]: And I even thought about this on the way over here. Even when our kids don't respond in a way that makes you think it's a big deal. I promise it's a bigger deal than even they put on that it is, because what that's doing is that's letting you know you're thinking about them when you're not around. It's the little things that really add up and make the big difference. It's not the big things, you know? Yeah. We can go on vacation once a year and do a big thing, and we go as a family do that's once a year. But, man, it's all the little things along the way. And so I really try to think of those little things, and then while I'm out, you know, I see something that reminds me of them. Tim McConville [00:26:49]: I'll buy something. Again, nothing big. It's just a little thing. Hey, I thought about you. Found your favorite candy. Here you go. It's just those little things. And then when you get home, be present when you're home. Tim McConville [00:27:01]: And I think that's the key, is being present when you're home. Being present is not being there. Being present is. You are mentally there. You're asking questions. How's your week been? What's going on? Hey, mom told me about this. Hey, how's that going? Being intentional to ask those questions. But for somebody that is gone all the time, it can seem monotonous and routine, and it doesn't matter. Tim McConville [00:27:30]: I'd encourage you not to look at it that way because it does matter. The little things, on a consistent basis, they matter. And when your kids are older, I've had kids that I had no idea had an impact in their life, and they will, as adults. If we run into each other, they'll post something on Facebook to me and they'll say, you have no idea the impact that you had when you'd call me and ask me to go get something to eat or when you did this. I'm like, man, I had no idea that even mattered. We remember. We remember those things. Jared Flinn [00:28:09]: Yeah. So I want to just keep asking this question because, you know one thing, it's hard to turn off work when you're. When you're in it all day. You know, actually, I was at a gathering not too long ago, and the speaker was talking about how he had to. Actually, it was like, 2 miles before he got home. There was a gas station. And he knew at that gas station, he had to turn off. And he just knew that that was kind of the reminder, like, I got to turn off work mode and start getting into kid mode. Jared Flinn [00:28:38]: That way, when he didn't, he wasn't pulling into the driveway, still on the phone talking about work, kids are coming out, or he's going in and still. But it just gave him that much reflection time, and I thought that was. Tim McConville [00:28:48]: Just a good practice. Yeah, I have two thoughts on that. One, if I'm on a work call on my way home, I will sit in the driveway until I'm done with that work call so that I can do that, so that when I get out of the car, get inside your focus here. I don't want to be the guy that's walking in on the phone and you're in the house walking around, and your kids want your attention, trying to talk to you. You're like, I'm on the phone. I'm on the phone. You know, that says something to them. And so I'm not always perfect with that. Tim McConville [00:29:19]: But again, that's just one of those things. The other thing is, I would say, even on the flip side of that, there are times, because of what I do and the situations I deal with, I want to use the things that are going on in my work life to teach my kids. And so there's times that I'll come home, and my son, especially, he's just at this age, that he's just ready, needs my attention right then. And I'll be like, you know, wait, wait. And finally there'll be a time I'll stop with him and say, can I tell you what's going on right now in my head, the things that I'm dealing with? So you can understand why I'm asking you to give me a minute? And so I'll go through and I'll talk about, hey, this is the person I'm dealing with. This is the situation. This is what's going on. And I want him to understand. Tim McConville [00:30:08]: I love him, but he's not the only thing going on in my brain. He's not. And he needs to understand that, yes, I love him. Yes, he is a priority in me, but that doesn't mean that there's not other things going on. And so I just need him to give me a second. And when I explained that to him, he was like, oh, you're right. I didn't think about that. Because kids just think about themselves, right? They think everything revolves around them. Tim McConville [00:30:37]: And so I think it's important to teach them that there are other things going on and what you think is an important thing to you. And unfortunately, I deal with a lot of crazy life situations. And there's times I'll sit down with my kids and say, let me tell you about this kid that I'm working with right now. Let me tell you about this single mom in the family that I'm working with right now. And it puts in perspective what they thought was so important for them to go, okay, there's other things a little more important than this game that I'm playing right now on Xbox that I wanted to tell you about. You know, does that make sense? So I try to use things as teaching moments for them well, yeah, this. Jared Flinn [00:31:19]: Year has been a blessing. My, my second child's son, he is really taking an interest of kind of what I do. And he's at that age, twelve years old. And this past year, he's went to me with different truck shows. He was at the conference that we hosted here and actually really wanted to help out. And I found that so rewarding because I think there is a balance. Your child, and we're in a different era. I mean, some, there's still a lot of businesses where children can be involved. Jared Flinn [00:31:45]: I grew up working next to my dad for, I mean, from the time I was eight years old till the time I was 18, I thought it was brutal, hard work in the sawmill. But I got to see my dad every day and I got to watch him. And I never thought about it. There was resentment. But I got to see him physically working, modeling, what a father does, I guess. And I never realized at the time, I just thought it was this brutal farm work that I was doing. But I look back, I was like, man, he really taught me how to work. And that's not, as today, we're not in that kind of society. Tim McConville [00:32:17]: There's still little good balance in that, that a dad can do that and also teach their kids along the way. It's absolutely powerful. I got the great opportunity to go work at a, we had a booth up for patros and we were talking to church leaders and pastors at a conference in Indiana that my son came along with me. And so he's sitting here listening to what I'm saying. And he became a second worker at the table with me. And if I was talking to somebody, somebody would come up, hey, what's petros? And here I've got my eleven year old son. Like, people were blown away. They're like, man, he is like, is very clear. Tim McConville [00:32:52]: He, he knew what he was talking about. Like, I understand what this is like. I can't tell you how proud of a dad that made me to have my son with me and working alongside of me in that setting. It was a lot of fun. And so we bonded in that. But he learned a lot. There's a lot, you know, he was learning communication skills. He's learning how to speak to an adult, how to look him in the eye like, there's so much to be learned. Tim McConville [00:33:21]: And for you, you learned hard work. You learned how. Yeah, this isn't fun, but this has to be done. There's so much that you learn in just working alongside with dad in those moments that you're not gonna learn a lot of other places. Jared Flinn [00:33:36]: You mentioned patros, and I want this to kind of lead into that, but instead of being intentional is number one, but also kind of working on yourself when you're away is really important. Tim McConville [00:33:50]: Speak to that. Jared Flinn [00:33:51]: Having time to just improve yourself, whether it's prayer time, Bible reading, learning. I mean, just actually reading and studying how to be a better father or husband. Tim McConville [00:34:03]: Yeah. So, you know, when you're gone, you know, so if I'm away on a trip and I may have meetings and things in the evenings, but we tend to have more time to ourselves, and we can either waste that away, we can either just squander that with frivolous things, just, you know, whatever that might be, watching tv, vegging out, you know, whatever it is, or we could be intentional to say, hey, what can I do to grow as a dad? What can I do to grow as a husband? What can I do to grow just as a human, as an individual? And so one of the things that we created with man up is kind of a few different purposes to it was patros. If you go to Patros, us, that is a resource that we created from man up that we said, how do we take what we're doing and get it in the hands of other men? How do we get it into the churches? You know, we're doing programming. We're doing, you know, we have these, you know, these, you know, our mission. We have, you know, we believe that children benefit in every measurable way by the presence of a loving, committed father in the home. Like, we have these things that we believe. How do we inspire other men to take those things and do something with it? And so that's where patros came from. And so Patros is the greek word for fathers. Tim McConville [00:35:23]: And not just father, but the patriarch, the one that leads a group of people. And so, as a father, we're supposed to lead our home. We're supposed to lead our children. And I'll be honest with you, my wife will tell you I'm not always great at that. That. That's not always. Sometimes it goes back to that. I just want time to myself. Tim McConville [00:35:44]: I I think about a lot of other things all day, and sometimes I just. Jared Flinn [00:35:48]: It's funny say that, because I was like, if you're listening right now, man, do not feel guilty. Tim McConville [00:35:52]: We're all guilty of this, being like. Jared Flinn [00:35:55]: Oh, my gosh, this is making me feel. Tim McConville [00:35:57]: Well, listen, I can't, like, I can't lie to you, because my wife will probably watch this, and she'll be like, liar, you know, so I'm speaking to myself like, this is, this is on me, too. I literally, we just had this conversation a few nights ago. And so it's stuff that I'm processing through. But we are the leaders of our home. As men, as fathers, as husbands, we're supposed to lead our families. And I've been convicted of that recently of stepping up in a greater way to do that with some nudging from my wife. She sees when I'm sitting back a little bit. But Petros was this idea of, okay, how do we help men grow and understand who we are? And so our first video series that we created is called the man as series. Tim McConville [00:36:49]: And it's what does the Bible say about authentic, healthy masculinity? And so it talks about the topic, man as father, man as husband, man as worker, man as lover. You know, how are we to love people around us? What does that look like? Man as image bearer. God created us in his image. What does that mean? How do we, how does that play out? And so, one, it's meant to help us grow as individuals. But all throughout the video series, it's talking about fatherlessness and the impact that we as men can have on the helping break that generational cycle of fatherlessness. Because one of the lessons I love the most, former speaker of the House down in Florida, Chris Sprouls, does a video, man as husband or man as father. And one of the things that stood out to me was, I've got boys, I've got a family. I'm busy. Tim McConville [00:37:47]: But he said, every person has the capacity for at least one more, and he challenges us. He says, who's that one more for you? Who's that one more? And, you know, I've, I've got that one more. I've got a young man that I have mentored and been a part of his life for the past five years. Jared Flinn [00:38:05]: I wanted you to share that story. We get a chance to, by the. Tim McConville [00:38:07]: Way, it's really cool. And, you know, it's, again, that idea of, you know, yes, we've got a lot going on, but I think we fill our lives with a lot of busyness that doesn't have to be there. And we're losing out on the opportunity to truly make a great impact in people by just filling it with busyness. And even in the busyness, what I've found is, so with this young man that I've mentored is I've allowed him to come be a part of some of that busyness. So, meaning my son's got a basketball game or he's got a baseball game. Hey, why don't you come with me, go watch the game with us. And so he come be a part of the family. We go watch the game, go out to eat afterwards. Tim McConville [00:38:47]: Or maybe it's, hey, let's just go grab some lunch, or I'll go watch him play basketball. I was just down in Branson a couple weeks ago, watching him play in a basketball tournament, and it's really been cool to see how the Lord's used me in that relationship. I'm not trying to be his dad. I'm not trying to step into a role that's not mine, but just to. Jared Flinn [00:39:10]: Be there, what's cool? Cause that I know who you're talking about. And, like, he does not have a father in his life. And just being present is just amazing, too. Tim McConville [00:39:21]: Yeah. And it's, it's a whole, listen, I think people, if they truly stopped and listened to and asked people about their stories, that people would be blown away at what people go through every single day. Yeah, I'll share a quick story. I met a young lady, girl that was in 7th grade, first time I'd ever met her. We were at a family picnic we were doing for our adoptive families with man up. And this girl just very openly was telling me about how she got to where she was. She's from Ohio. She had been living here in Springfield for a couple years. Tim McConville [00:39:57]: She lived in a group home where she was getting therapy because she was sexually abused by her father. And I'm listening to this story, and I'm like, where do you go to school at right now? And she said, nixa. And I'm like, that's where my kids go. And as she's sharing this, I was just thinking to myself, my kids walked through the same hallways as this little girl. And I went home that night, and I sat my kids down. My daughter had a friend over. I said, you're sitting here with us, too. And I began to teach him in that moment. Tim McConville [00:40:28]: I said, listen, you have no idea who you're walking by in the hallways at your school. You have no idea what those kids are dealing with. And when you see a problem child or you see a kid that doesn't act like they care, they're, they're recluse and sit off to themselves. You have no idea what some of those kids have to put up with on a nightly basis or on a daily basis. And I told them about this little girl. I said, she goes to the same schools you guys go to. You could have walked by her in the hallway and never known what she's had to deal with in her life and the hurt and trauma that she's dealt with. I'm just telling you, when you hear those stories, it causes you to look at people different. Tim McConville [00:41:06]: Yeah. It causes you to have a little bit more compassion, a little bit more of a heart to say, okay, I'm going to look past the troublemaker, and I'm going to find out who the person is, you know? Jared Flinn [00:41:15]: Yeah, I can remember when we went to a home here organization where they bring in, basically, it's level four trauma children. And if you don't know what that is, I mean, these are basically, they can't be placed in foster care. Like, they're just too disruptive. Foster care can't handle them. So they go to these homes, and I remember we were playing dodgeball and basketball with these kids, and it was cool. We brought pizza in, and one of the kid, one of the boys said, are you guys gonna come back? And I was like, yeah, if we can, we'll come back. And. But, like, it just that question, he's like, are you guys gonna come back? That's what he was more worried about. Jared Flinn [00:41:54]: Like, are you coming back to see us? Tim McConville [00:41:56]: And the reason why, and I've learned this time and time again, the reason why is they saw guys that came to just hang out with them. We weren't one of the workers. We weren't one of their leaders. One of the things that I've heard many times, I've had foster moms that'll say, you know, the kids, they like me and all, but, man, when my husband gets home, they are just drawn to him. It's something about a dad figure. Jared Flinn [00:42:22]: It's the way God is. Tim McConville [00:42:23]: It is the male presence. It makes a huge impact in a kid's life. They say that for, you know, mom, moms are loving, they're nurturing. There's those qualities that mom brings for dad. Dads bring safety, security. Having dad around helps a child gain a sense of purpose in life, helps them gain a sense of competence in themselves. Not that they can't gain that with just mom around, but that's the role of dad is to help bring a. That presence in the home that gives a child the security that they need to feel like they can go out into the world and do what they're called to do and to find a purpose and find their place in the world. Tim McConville [00:43:11]: And when that safety and security is not there, so, you know, dad, you're there, but you're not mentally present there. What that tells a kid is what's wrong with me that my dad doesn't want to do anything with me. What's wrong with me that when they're home, they don't want to do anything with me, but they want to go do stuff with everybody else that. That. That makes a bigger impact on a kid than we could ever understand. Jared Flinn [00:43:37]: Yeah, that's good. You know, I was going to back up to, I think we underestimate, for me, serving in man up. Like, it's crazy. It's like, it's so hard to do in the time. Like, there's a service project coming up, and I just remember those times. We're like, oh, man, I got plenty to do at home. But, like, you go and do that and, like, all of a sudden, it's. You're more awake when you're back home to be like, man, this is important for the family. Jared Flinn [00:44:02]: And I've been actually more intentional by serving. You know, being away from the home and serving when I come back, it's like ten x. Tim McConville [00:44:11]: There's a. It's a biblical principle. It's that idea of when we give out. And I had one of our volunteers, Zach, I remember, he would tell me, you know, same thing, you know, he'd go to deliver a meal to a family, and he's like, man, I don't have time for this. I'm hired. And he's like, then I'd get there, and he would see the excitement of the boys. Jared Flinn [00:44:32]: Yeah. Tim McConville [00:44:33]: Seeing him got the pizza, I can picture them. Jared Flinn [00:44:35]: I had those, you know, those kids at the door, behind the screen door. Tim McConville [00:44:38]: And all of a sudden, in that moment, it's like, I'm not tired anymore. And he would talk about that. He said, my cup would be filled up in that moment. And when your cup is. Is full, you have something more to give. And so to that point, when you get home, you're like, all right, what can I do? You know, you're filled up, you're energized because you knew, you know, you did something impactful, and that made a difference. And I'm telling you, those little things, those ten minute, 1530 minutes times of connection with those families that we're making when we do those consistently listen five years later, man, those boys, they love when they hear man up is coming by for anything, they're like, they love it. Their eyes light up when they. Tim McConville [00:45:24]: Man, they melt my heart every time I see those boys. And they come up and run up and give me a big hug. They're happy to see you. That comes from the relationship, and that's what we're doing as fathers in our home, is we're building that relationship with our kids, that there's a bond that's created with them that will last a lifetime. Yeah. Jared Flinn [00:45:47]: So, Patros, we'll put the link below in the episode notes. So if you're listening right now, and I know that one time that was subscription, but you're saying it's actually going to be free of charge and we want to use. Tim McConville [00:45:58]: Yes. And so what we've done is we've created a code that you can use right now. It's called panta patros. P a n t A. Patros. P A. In the coupon code to get that free subscription, we want you guys to have it. The videos, there's podcasts to listen to. Tim McConville [00:46:15]: So you're driving down the road, throw on the podcast, and they're just talking all things healthy masculinity, talking about, you know, what our view in the world should be about how to handle different situations. What's the Bible talking about when it says that? There's just so much that they talk about that I think is great content for us to be able to take in. So, again, back to that idea. When we have time away, what are we doing to build ourselves up, to fill ourselves with good stuff and not just junk. Jared Flinn [00:46:46]: Yeah. You have to be intentional. Yeah. I've been on both sides of the table where it's, man, this is free time for me. And it's like, now this can be time where I can actually improve and be better when I'm back. Tim McConville [00:46:56]: Absolutely. Jared Flinn [00:46:57]: And present. But, yeah, we'll put those links in the episode notes. So along with that coupon code so you'll get access to that. I want to kind of tail off here and kind of end on this, but talk about if I'm a. I'm a dad, I'm out in Ohio right now. I listen to this podcast, and, man, love what you hear and maybe want to learn more about man up. But, like, hey, you know, sounds like you guys are in Springfield and obviously Tampa. I'm out here in Ohio. Jared Flinn [00:47:20]: Is there. I mean, what can I do? Or can I be a part of this? Are there opportunities for men across the country, maybe even world, to be a part of man up and go? Tim McConville [00:47:29]: Yeah, absolutely. And that's what patros is all about. The whole idea of patros is to inspire men. It's about. It's about putting that little bit of that inspiration in you to say, man, I could do something like that. In my neighborhood, in my community, I've got a group of guys at church that they would love to get on board with doing some of the stuff that you're talking about. And we want to be here as a resource to you to help start that. So if you say, hey, listen, we, you know, we want to be able to go through. Tim McConville [00:47:59]: We got a group of men at my church. We can go through this curriculum, this patro series, and learn and grow from that. And then you say, well, what's next? Well, what's next is, what are you. What are you feeling called to do? What is it? What's the need in your community if your community is full of foster families and, you know, kids that are coming out of some pretty tough home situations and. And maybe you can support those foster families by providing the wraparound support services like we do. Let's talk about that. We're here to help you figure out what that looks like. How do you make that happen? Maybe it's mentoring. Tim McConville [00:48:36]: Maybe you see a need for. You've got a lot of single moms in your church or maybe in your neighborhood community that providing some mentoring, having some male role models, big brothers, big sisters, is kind of that thought process to that. Again, we can show you what that looks like, how to do that. It's doing something. It's just saying, okay, what can I do? And doing it? And let's be honest. That's the thing. We can have a lot of great ideas, but at the end of the day, you got to step out and do it. And you can't just wait for somebody else because you may be there waiting for a long time, be willing to step up and be that person that says, I want to start something in my community. Jared Flinn [00:49:18]: I was even thinking for a lot of our guys that are on the road, a lot remote. I mean, even trying to find, a lot of these guys are on Facebook groups, I know, that know each other really well, but, man, maybe finding those other men and going through patros together, you know? Tim McConville [00:49:32]: Absolutely. Jared Flinn [00:49:33]: With the technology, they creating a FaceTime group or whatever. Tim McConville [00:49:36]: Yeah. Jared Flinn [00:49:36]: And actually having other intentional men that you can surround yourself with when you're away virtually. That way, when you're home, you're, you know, that iron sharpens ironization. Tim McConville [00:49:46]: And something else that we do when you say, you know, people around the country, you know, how can you get in and get involved? One of the things that we do with man up is we do international work. That's where we started, was taking missions, trips, taking groups of people to Uganda, Ethiopia, Dominican Republic, some areas that we have relationships with, with people there. I'm getting ready to go to Uganda at the end of August, the first week of September for my first trip over there. Jared Flinn [00:50:14]: I'm glad you brought that up because. Yeah. And I'll have Joe actually throw up a picture, but I was blessed back in 2021 to go over there. Right there. Yeah. We did Uganda for a week and went to one of the orphanages, the Carroth orphanage. Tim McConville [00:50:27]: And so there's trips like that happening even in this February, February 2025, they're taking another Mount killy trip where you're going to spend six days climbing Mount Kilimanjaro. And then you spend the back half of the trip going to the orphanages, the places that we do work in Uganda. But those, those are things that we're doing all the time. And we're constantly putting that stuff up on our facebook page, our, you know, Instagram, on our website, letting people know when those trips are happening, because I'm just telling you, going and doing that, you're, you're just, you're wrecked. I mean, it. When you see, when you see fatherlessness is a big deal here. It looks different in third world countries. Jared Flinn [00:51:10]: Yes, it does. Tim McConville [00:51:10]: And it, and it's impactful, and it's one of those things that you just won't forget. And so I encourage people all the time, hey, if you've not been out of the country, been on a mission strip, I encourage you to do it because it will change your life. Jared Flinn [00:51:24]: Yeah, we've been all, it's been cool as a company. We've been able to help with a couple serve projects for man up. There's a cleaning project. Actually, I was not able to go, actually, I think I had a podcast guess, at the time. But some of our office staff went out there, and it was really cool hearing the store and just how much they were refreshed and, and that it's, again, I'm not saying this to brag about our people, but, like, man, when you do those little things and step out of your comfort zone, you know, what is it proverb? You know, those who refresh others will be refreshed. And I promise you, you know, doing those little things, you will be rewarded and refreshed well. Tim McConville [00:51:59]: And listen, I'll tell you this, and I know you don't look at it this way as an outsider looking in, you being a boss that's willing to say hey, I want to give my people an opportunity to do this is huge. And you're saying, I see so much of value and importance in this. I want to give the people that work with me the opportunity to go and do that. That's why that's possible. Jared Flinn [00:52:22]: Well, selfishly, I got to experience it, and I want other people to experience. Tim McConville [00:52:26]: And so what was really cool is that family, husband and wife, the husband works a late night shift, and so he's usually sleeping during the day. And they've got, I believe they've got ten or eleven people living in their home right now. Just some different situations. A lot of life's happened. I said, what would make you feel better when you drive in your driveway and you park? What would be. And so we were able to go and just do a refresh on the whole front of the house. Clean things, you know, cut things back, planted a new bush over here, were able to bring a dumpster in to get rid of a bunch of junk that they want to get rid of. And I'm just telling you, she was elated when she came home and pulled up to her house, just seeing it clean. Tim McConville [00:53:10]: And it was incredible. And it took us 2 hours. Yes, I think we had, we had 1516 people there. I mean, it went like that. And there's powers and numbers, and so we certainly were able to do that that day. Jared Flinn [00:53:25]: So, last question, Tim, and we'll close with this for, for those listeners that listen to this. And again, some of this was pretty heavy and convicting, even for me. I'm listening to this and it's, it's a reminder to me to be better and in a positive way, because we can all drift down different ways. Maybe that father out there that's listening been like, I haven't talked to my son or daughter in years, or I've been away from the house or, man, you don't know my situation. I. There's just things going involved and I can't do that, man. What would you say to them right now? That's listening to be encouraged. Tim McConville [00:54:02]: Yeah. Well, I would say this, that there is hope. There is hope in every situation. At the end of the day, every situation is different. And I know there's some guys out there that would say, man, I've done so much, I've hurt my kids so much, I've caused so much damage. There's no way. And I'll be honest with you, it may take time when we allow ourselves to get to that place. The consequence of that sometimes can be those broken relationships. Tim McConville [00:54:38]: But if you never try, it'll never get fixed. If you never try to do something and you say, well, I've tried a few times, are your kids worth it that you'll try for the rest of your life? And I would say for my kids, I would do anything for them, and I would continue to do anything for them. And I could sit and tell you stories of dads that are working their butts off to try to fix and to heal the brokenness that's been caused. And it takes a little bit of time and just, you got to keep. You got to keep going after it, because your kids matter that much. And at the end of the day, at least they'll see that you are trying. And so many guys are like, man, it's not worth it. So I'm not even going to try. Tim McConville [00:55:25]: Well, guess what? That's what your kids are going to see. But if you put the effort in and you take time and you do reach out, you let them know you love them. My dad never told me he loved me. There was never a time that he just stopped to say, hey, you know what, son? I really love you. I never heard that. And. And there's a lot of kids out there that. That's all they want to hear. Tim McConville [00:55:51]: They want to hear that their dad's proud of them. They want to hear that their dad loves them. They want to hear that their dad. Their dad's there for them no matter what, even when they screw up. And they make mistakes, man. And it just reminds me as a Christian, the love that my father in heaven has towards me, because I mess up every day, I screw up every day. But his love is still there. He still loves me. Tim McConville [00:56:17]: He still cares for me. And that's what lets me know that there is hope in any situation, any situation, any situation, because there is a hope that comes from a heavenly father that's greater than anything else that we could ever encounter. And so I just. I would encourage you that there is hope. Don't give up. Keep loving them. Keep reaching out, keep making that effort. Um, who knows? It may be tomorrow that your kid reset, you know, reciprocates that back to you. Jared Flinn [00:56:46]: Yeah, man, this was so good. Again, not your typical bulk loads business podcast, but, uh, man, if we can succeed at business, but if we fail in the home, what is. What's the purpose? Tim McConville [00:56:59]: Well, I will say this, I will say this. I watched the bulk loads podcast. I have nothing to do with trucking, with bulk, you know, bulk freight, none of that. But I love I love hearing the different stories, the different companies and things. I spent a week in Iowa last week, and I thought about you guys the whole time as I'm driving. A lot of members up there, cornfields, you know, the bean fields, the, all the bins and trucks and all. Like, I thought about you guys the whole week, so. Jared Flinn [00:57:27]: Well, we'll put Tim's information in the show notes, too. And I know this without even asking, Hentai is a resource. If you want to even reach out to him via email, we'll put his contact information in there. Man would love to talk to you if there's. If you have ideas, maybe questions, maybe how you can be a part of man up or just learn to be better in the home life as a father, husband and community leader. So, Tim, thank you very much, man. Love what you're doing for man up. God bless you. Tim McConville [00:57:54]: Thanks. Appreciate it. Jared Flinn [00:57:56]: Tyler, I think this was a little bit of a sensitive subject, and I know probably almost every one of our listeners. I mean, obviously we all have fathers and moms, but there's something about the father. Tyler Allison [00:58:07]: Yeah. Jared Flinn [00:58:08]: You know, your biofather, maybe you were adopted. I'm sure listeners on our podcast maybe were adopted or in the foster care system, and it's just one of those, man, you go back and I get emotional thinking about it. You know, I grew up in a, in a home. My dad and mom were around, but there was still, you know, we had trauma and issues going on. And it's just. Yeah, it's just a cool organization. Organization that manna does for. Tyler Allison [00:58:32]: Yeah. I'm so glad you decided to bring on Tim. Tim actually spoke at our conference this past year, and a lot of people actually came up to me and said, you know, I'm so glad that you guys highlighted this at the conference and just were able to shed some light on fatherlessness and how big of an issue it is today. I think a lot of people, they don't, they forget how important the role of the father is, especially in today's society. Tim McConville [00:59:00]: Yeah. Jared Flinn [00:59:00]: And even. Especially our industry, I would say compared to a lot, we have a lot of fathers that are on the road a lot, and you have to figure out ways to still be intentional when you're on the road or at home. And this isn't to call. Well, I am going to call those fathers out because I need to be called out to be a better father. Just I can get so wrapped into work and I can be working here at home and go home and still not be present because it consumes me so it's. This is just something that we have to watch and be very diligent about it because it can slip away if we're not careful on being an intentional father. Tyler Allison [00:59:35]: Yeah. And it's biblical. I mean, the Lord calls us to be intentional fathers as well. Jared Flinn [00:59:39]: Yeah. It's interesting, too, if you keep reading the Bible, how much like the fathers are to give blessings over their children. And I think sometimes we forget about that. That's our role is not just to be the supportive provider, but we have to speak those blessings and guide our children, this world. So, yeah. Tim Mandev, praise God for you. Thank you for man up and go and everything that you're doing. If you want to find out more again, we're going to put all the links below in the show notes so you can find out. Jared Flinn [01:00:03]: And we're man up and go. They're trying to expand. So maybe you're up in Minnesota or South Carolina and you say, hey, I want to start one of these programs, or I want to be a part of man up and go. We can get you all the resources to do that. They. We want this to expand to, you know, beyond countries and to the ends of the earth, so we can get you there. So. Tim McConville [01:00:25]: Cool. Jared Flinn [01:00:25]: Thanks again, Tim. A couple things you have. Tyler Allison [01:00:28]: Yeah, so I just want to mention some of our videos that we've been putting on YouTube recently. I don't know if you've noticed, Jared, but they are getting a lot and a lot of views. Yeah. Rob Grover is one of the most recent one that Joe, he went out to Grover Farm and did a video with Rob Grover and just highlighted him, and it was like. It was almost like a Netflix show. Like, I was watching it, and I was just like, joe, where's the next one? Yeah. Yeah. His mind is crazy, the way that he can tell a story. Jared Flinn [01:01:01]: What I like about Rob Grover, the guy didn't hold back, and I think in a good way. He was so transparent and honest on how they run the business and how they started. So, man, if you're looking to expand, maybe you're one or two, five trucks and wanting to get to 40, like Rob, or maybe you have 40. You just want to see some of the tricks of the trade that he did. They're not really, you know, tricks, but that I would just encourage you to watch it. Tyler Allison [01:01:24]: Yeah. Yeah, me, too. And I commend Rob just because he wants to continue teaching. You know, he's involved in so much with. He had that ag fair going on that was trying to teach kids about agriculture and trucking. But also. So he mentioned to Joe that he wants to keep doing these videos to keep sharing his knowledge and help make other people successful in the industry. Tim McConville [01:01:47]: Yeah. Jared Flinn [01:01:47]: So if you would be willing to let Joe come out, contact us. I think you have a form that people can fill out. I know we've got. He's got some other ones lined up. I'm heading with Joe next week up to Pennsylvania. We're actually going to do a video shoot up there. So, yeah, we love doing these. And I think this could even be one of those, you know, being on, it's going to help promote your company, but even it's a serve. Jared Flinn [01:02:10]: You're, I mean, you're serving others by showing people how to be better in trucking and how to enrich the lives of others. So, Joe, thank you for that. Anything else? Tyler Allison [01:02:19]: One thing before we get off the subject, I have to tell you. So, Mike Cordy, you know, the video we did with him, he actually called Austin yesterday in the office and he was telling him. And he said that ever since we released that video, he said that he can't go anywhere. He said that he'll go to Casey's and somebody will be in his town. He'll be like, they'll want to buy him a drink or a fountain soda or something. Jared Flinn [01:02:43]: Yeah. Tyler Allison [01:02:43]: Just because they saw that video. He actually hired two drivers from that video. People paid off release, I think, man, it's gotten like 800,000 views, like, altogether. But anyways, people found his Facebook page that was linked, they went to him, they started messaging him, and he actually hired some drivers out of it. So this could be a huge opportunity for you. But we want to highlight any size company from an owner operator to a mid sized carrier. Also brokerage and shipping companies. Like, if you would have us out, we would love to come and film your operation. Jared Flinn [01:03:15]: It's content marketing, which, by the way, we're going to have a guest coming up on the show that's going to really talk about that. And it applies even if you're a small business owner, owner, operator, this thing, it's the same thing. Promote yourself. Tyler Allison [01:03:29]: Awesome. Other than that, we had our TMS webinar yesterday, so if you missed out on that, we did actually record it. And you can access it through the link in the description, but also the link on bulk loads through the banner. It'll say there's a button up there that says watch. Now you can click it and watch it. We had 153 people sign up from it. But if you were not able to attend. We did record it, so you can go watch it. Tyler Allison [01:03:55]: And it's just one of those things. If you've ever wondered, is a transportation management system for me, can it help me? Or even what is it, you know, what's all these other features that people are talking about on bulk loads? You definitely want to check it out. Jared Flinn [01:04:08]: Yeah. And it's not for everyone. So check it out to see, because we're helping a lot of people, but it may not be set up for you. So. Tyler Allison [01:04:14]: Exactly. Jared Flinn [01:04:14]: We want to make that point. So. Cool. Well, Tyler, I'm going to let you close us in prayer today. Before I do that, I want to talk about joy. I think again, we are in times where we see a lot of people just not joyful. And, you know, as christians, we should have all the joy in the world. And we know where we're going, we know what the plan is, we know how the story ends. Jared Flinn [01:04:36]: But some of us, we run out, including myself. But yeah, I want to be, I want to encourage you out there today, man. If you are with the Lord and know the Lord, man, have a joyful heart. And I know you're saying, Jared, but you don't know my situation. Hey, trust me, I know we all have different situations, man. We're all going through different trials. But, man, we know the Lord, we know how this story ends. So Mandev, and let me encourage you by having you encourage others and have a joyful heart out there. Tyler Allison [01:05:02]: Yeah, awesome. Jared Flinn [01:05:03]: I'll let you close. Tyler Allison [01:05:04]: Lord, we come to you today just to thank you and praise you. Lord, we just cannot thank you enough for all the many blessings that you give us. Lord, we know that all that we have is nothing because of what we do. But because of you, Lord, we ask that a special blessing for all those in our industry, in agriculture and in trucking. Lord, all of our members, we ask that you just place a hand over them, watch over them, keep them safe as they travel. Lord, we ask that anybody that is struggling, going through any kind of financial struggles, family struggles, any of that, you just give them the peace and the strength and the courage to keep continuing on. Lord, we, we ask a special blessing for all the fatherlessness that's going on. Lord, we ask that you just empower men around the globe to, and remind them of the role of a father if they are one that they have. Tyler Allison [01:05:53]: Lord, and we ask that you just bless everyone. Lord, we thank you and we love you. Amen. Jared Flinn [01:05:58]: Amen. Before we close out of here, we do have a prayer email, if you would like prayer. Please send an email to prayer oakloads.com. we would be honored to pray for you. Any situation out there, big or small, we would be honored to let us pray over that. So make sure and do that. Tim McConville [01:06:16]: Cool. Jared Flinn [01:06:17]: Well, as always, thank you for watching the bulk loads podcast. If you haven't yet, subscribe down. There's a little button in the lower left hand corner. That way you never miss an episode. We're releasing a lot more, not just podcasts, but videos. You will always stay in tune if you subscribe, so thank you very much. And as always, God.